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JJProdigy    0

I want to start by first off apologizing for all my failed apologies in the past. It has always been my wish to come clean and be accepted into the community like I was at the very beginning of my career, but the reasons behind my words weren't what they needed to be for me to realize the impact of my actions on the players, the poker community, and the outlook on online poker by the rest of the world. I have made the decision that it is time to move on with my life and to finally mature. It is necessary that I put myself on the back burner and dedicate myself to promoting this game and to repairing the image that I have created for it.

It was never my intention for my image and negative impact on the game to get this out of hand. In the beginning, I was a misguided kid with undeveloped morals and ethics. Once I got thrown under the bus by my actions, I always wanted to come back and to return where I once was, but this thinking is exactly why I am where I am now today. I never admitted that I had a true understanding of everything that I was doing, how I was affecting such a bigger picture than just being talked about in private conversations and on the occasion poker forum thread. I never made this clear because I never truly believed it. I always just wanted to be accepted, I didn't realize the first step was to come clean and understand once and for all the impact I had on the community.

With this being said... I would like to formally apologize. I apologize for all the players I have affected and the unfair equity that I stole from them in tournaments. I apologize to the entire poker community for highlighting the flaws of internet poker and giving it such a bad reputations in parts. It is a privilege that we should all be very thankful for, and I am deeply sorry that I took advantage of it for my own personal benefits. I apologize to everyone I offended, whether it be top name pros or micro stake grinders. I apologize to all those that have been close to me and have been affected negatively for associating with me. It is not fair for these people to be punished for my actions, but it is a grouping affect that they had to be aware they were getting themselves into.

I would also live to say that I am not the poker god that I tend to be talked up to be on the forums. My accomplishments have been vastly exaggerated, even by those close to me. I am aware that a part of this persona I have been given is because I have been the mentor to many phenomenal poker players in their own rights. I have to renounce this, however, and say that I have been very blessed to have such great minds come to me with the desire to improve and learn. I did nothing for them that they could have not have done for themselves. I merely helped them open their minds and to see their potential. I am very thankful for the praise I get for this, but I assure you I did very little and am merely very lucky to have worked with such great minds.

It is unfair how highly I am looked upon as a poker player, as well. No one should ever get some of the praises I get. I assure you that in poker, no one is vastly greater than anyone else on any given day. Poker is about evolving and adapting to every single hand in every single situation. The game merely rewards those who are bright enough to keep up with it.

I also haven't made nearly as much money as people think I have. I have lost a majority of my worth through the forms of failed staking arrangements. This is also something that tends to be greatly exaggerated.

Starting now, I will dedicate as much time and effort as needed in an attempt to right my wrongs of the past and restore faith in online poker. I understand if I cannot be forgiven for my actions, but I would like to repair the bad image the I helped create. I want to work with major poker sites and offer my guidance on how I feel this can be stopped completely and wiped out of online poker. Security is evolving everyday to get more sophisticated, and I commend the sites for that.

It is time that I move on with my life and right the wrongs of my past. I sincerely apologize for the mistakes that I have made and the corrupt image I have made for such a unique and beautiful game. The time calls for me to do everything in my part to receive forgiveness and to try to prevent any abuse to go on in the future. I will volunteer my time to the top sites if they will have me. I will also answer any questions that anyone might have, either about myself or my actions. I understand that the road to recovery is long and bumpy, but I assure you I will do everything in my power to amend my past and move on to a more ethical, aware, and self-understanding future.

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ginwilly    0

i'll try cliffnotes for ya

jj apologized again. he says he sees the error of his ways and won't do it anymore and this time he really means it

a lot of people wished him luck to turn things around

some people want to kill him or atleast do bodily harm

people who have been directly stolen from (we have all been indirectly stolen from) are not forgiving so easy

nutswingers started out saying how great jj is until they were thrashed and trashed and pretty much went away (for now)

multi-accounting is bad except for the moral and ethic bankrupt who still see nothing wrong

jj answered a lot of questions except the tough ones or the ones that would truly show contrition and wants to help the poker sites with security

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scarface_79    0

i'll try cliffnotes for ya

jj apologized again. he says he sees the error of his ways and won't do it anymore and this time he really means it

a lot of people wished him luck to turn things around

some people want to kill him or atleast do bodily harm

people who have been directly stolen from (we have all been indirectly stolen from) are not forgiving so easy

nutswingers started out saying how great jj is until they were thrashed and trashed and pretty much went away (for now)

multi-accounting is bad except for the moral and ethic bankrupt who still see nothing wrong

jj answered a lot of questions except the tough ones or the ones that would truly show contrition and wants to help the poker sites with security

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Claw1980    0

my 'quitting smoking' or my 'mood' have nothing to do with my posts in this thread. im actually in a pretty good mood right now, and wasnt in a 'bad mood' when i made those posts. i could be having the best day/week/month of my life, and still wouldnt pull any punches when it comes to speaking my mind on this kid. you can call it immature because i say "fuck" a lot, but id be stunned if im not saying what the majority of people who JJ has affected are thinking. if not, they should be. theres nothing 'moody' or 'immature' about it. this is coming from someone who just felt the need to issue an apology to anyone i was a douchebag towards recently, and yet i feel fully justified in every word ive said here.

if i have to phrase my posts twice as strongly just to counter anyone delusional enough to be encouraging towards this scumbag, then im more than happy to. if i were to read my replies in this thread in 10 yrs, im highly confident i wouldnt regret a word.

a resounding +1

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ITM_247    0

My primary question is why don't you take it upon yourself to lay everything out on the line, as opposed to simply stating that you will answer all questions asked of you? Reason being, there are certainly issues within your vast multi-accounting experience that you, and only you, are aware of. As such, none of us could even stumble upon questions that would address such items.

It is my opinion you're trying to come across as one who will reveal all by "answering anything that is asked", but that just simply cannot be all of it. Your apology, attempt #3 or #4 or whatever it is, spends a fair amount of time explaining why you did it and why it was wrong and why you won't continue; however, that part should consist of a mere paragraph or two in my opinion. You need to lay it all on the line, yourself, in tremendous detail, to even sniff some sort of credibility. Quite frankly, not remembering is not acceptable. Spend days, weeks or months compiling data about what you did and lay out a plan to make it right.

A simple "I'm sorry and won't do it anymore" doesn't cut it. You shouldn't even have to be prompted by questions, you should answer everything we could dream up and then some. Until then, and quite likely not even then, you're a selfish fraud that only says what the masses want to hear when your own circumstances require it.

From what I can tell, he is attempting to make money off of giving away this information. If true - that should tell you enough about his character and his sincerity. He is not going to give up making money.

What?? This clearly isn't it at all. I would like to first offer any information I have to the sites, and then after that, evaluate with them if I should make a detailed post and make a thread. I feel that this would be the best and most logical decision for the poker community.

Quote: "What?? This clearly isn't it at all. I would like to first offer any information I have to the sites, and then after that, evaluate with them if I should make a detailed post and make a thread. I feel that this would be the best and most logical decision for the poker community."

I don't want to tell you how to think/feel, but seriously...you can't honestly believe that this move is in the best interest of the poker community? Everyone you protect and all the secrets that you have yet to disclose continue to go unsaid...this only benefits you and those you serve to protect. You can't just give us what we already know, withold what we have an idea about, and then talk of starting anew. This sounds more like remodeling than "a fresh start"...

If you consider just the people who have benefited from your unethical online behavior as the "poker community", then yes...however, this would be the ONLY way it could be considered "the best and most logical decision for the poker community." Otherwise, this reeks of gameplanning.

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resilient    0

Okay, you said you would answer questions. Here goes:

1st question: Who is FishOnTilt?

2nd question: Who is Dont Taze Me Bro

3rd question: Are the above players the same person

4th question: Did you play as any of the players above, and if not, are you those players?

5th question: Please name the charity you will be donating the winnings you and your crew have cheated out of everyone

6th question: Have you reported yourself to the IRS yet?

1) FishOnTilt is a 16 year old kid who started in the game very closely to what I did.

2) Taze is an 18 year old kid who is very very cocky and rubs off as very annoying and pompus, but he has a lot of talent as well.

3) No

4) I am not these players

I have paid taxes on my winnings. I don't like being accused otherwise falsely.

I can't sort through all this crap, but I did make it to page 3 and liked the partial answer to question 4.

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RedFranklin    0

JJ, I truly hope you are sincere in this latest apology. However, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't skeptical. I deal with kids everyday who will say all the right things when they get caught. They tell you how they've learned their lessons and they'll do better the next time. 9 times out of 10, they're simply saying whatever they can to get out of trouble and save face. Its sad but true. I hope you're the 1 out of 10.

As a poker player, I'm nowhere near the rolled player I could be if I didn't have a different calling in life. I make a decent side income playing this game but nothing to make me wealthy. It bothers me greatly that a kid with your mind and ability continues to abuse this game that has fought for generations to be recognized as worthy and skillful game. I only wish I could be as gifted as you are at online poker. The really sad part is, if you only chose to not be a cheater, you'd more than likely find success the right way. Endorsement deals etc would surely come your way that would be FAR more lucrative than anything you'd make actually playing.

Bottom line is, it pisses me off that you seem to be in that 9 out of 10 population.

Good luck in the future and I wish you well. However, forgiving and forgetting are two different things.

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I wonder if he thinks hes going to get the shit kicked out of him if he plays live and bumps into someone that recognizes him. His picture is all over the internet. I posted a few days ago and I have been thinking of what it would take to set different ips, creating accounts and playing all these tournaments using multi accounts and it occured to me......didn't he, (while playing. I mean we are talking hundreds of hours of play here), didn't he ONCE think "this is fucking wrong here. What I'm doing is fucking wrong". As a player not a cheater/thief, I consider any cashes from the wins using this type of MA, simply "dirty money". It's one thing trying to find a way to fuck the online casinos (cause we all know, online casinos are out there to suck you dry), but to screw over other poker players, guys who are like me and have a lesser edge than you since you are supposed to be a poker pro, I say SHAME ON YOU MAN! It doesn't matter how much you apologize, I think you are weak and I have no respect for you. To me, you don't even need to try and "do some good to the online poker community". Even if I see your name ranked as number 1 online, I'm still going to believe you cheated your way there.

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ok JJ here goes...

I believe everyone makes mistakes and deserves second chances. None of us are perfect. Having said that, do you honestly expect anyone to believe anything you say?

You pulled off an amazing feat JJ. You have most people thinking you were just a "mentor" to a couple of young kids. I am not in the "most" category. You already proved to me just how smart you really are. I know there is no way you can come clean and truly tell everyone the ENTIRE truth because if you did you would be hated even more than you are now. I bet you got a great laugh while it lasted, but now that you got people life bans you feel guilty again (cough cough).

Imagine if this community found out how many accounts (poker, aim, email) you really have. They wouldn't be so forgiving then would they JJ?

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i like how he just puts his face out there for everything that he's done, and feel safe about it to play at the Aussie million.

usually when you start some shit like this, you don't flamboyantly flaunt yourself off.

srsly give up poker in general, you do deserve a beating for being greedy and starting all this shit.

i basically despise you, you have sullied the game i like, and it just won't be the same. i don't need to forgive you. forgiving someone is easy to say if you don't understand the impact it has. so those who say they forgive is just a word, but you really have no idea what it means, or what the impact of what he has done means.

one day, online poker may seem safe and kinda fun again. to me atleast.

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MangosPapa    0

my 'quitting smoking' or my 'mood' have nothing to do with my posts in this thread. im actually in a pretty good mood right now, and wasnt in a 'bad mood' when i made those posts. i could be having the best day/week/month of my life, and still wouldnt pull any punches when it comes to speaking my mind on this kid. you can call it immature because i say "fuck" a lot, but id be stunned if im not saying what the majority of people who JJ has affected are thinking. if not, they should be. theres nothing 'moody' or 'immature' about it. this is coming from someone who just felt the need to issue an apology to anyone i was a douchebag towards recently, and yet i feel fully justified in every word ive said here.

if i have to phrase my posts twice as strongly just to counter anyone delusional enough to be encouraging towards this scumbag, then im more than happy to. if i were to read my replies in this thread in 10 yrs, im highly confident i wouldnt regret a word.

a resounding +1

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spks99    0

JJ

how did you cash out / how did you get the money you had won out of the poker sites and into your bank account? did you transfer money from you account to an account of one of your friends/stakees and then get the money from them?

I never cashed out. Whatever I won, I invested (and lost) in backing. People overvalue my networth extremely.

So you never cashed out, yet you paid taxes on all your winnings????? Hmmmm......that doesn't seem to add up..........

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99NvrLosez    0

JJ

how did you cash out / how did you get the money you had won out of the poker sites and into your bank account? did you transfer money from you account to an account of one of your friends/stakees and then get the money from them?

I never cashed out. Whatever I won, I invested (and lost) in backing. People overvalue my networth extremely.

So you never cashed out, yet you paid taxes on all your winnings????? Hmmmm......that doesn't seem to add up..........

good catch...

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