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Why do US players still play on Merge instead of moving to Winning

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Okay here goes, I have a question for all of us - myself included. Merge sucks we all know that, right? Yet we all still play there. We get on forums and bitch and moan and all they do is the complete opposite of what they should do and yet we still play there.

It's not like there aren't other sites to play on, I think the increase in Bovada's traffic is evidence of this. Of course there are big draw backs to Bovada, no P2P so it's hard for stables to put their players on there, no synch'd breaks and for MTT players this is pretty huge, and those damn anonymous tables. What they do have going for them is a great MTT schedule and nice soft cash games, as well as fast payouts.

Then there is Winning Poker Network, this is what I don't understand. Why don't people want to play there? The customer service is without a doubt the absolute best for any US facing site, if not any site except Stars and it actually rivals Stars. The cashouts are fast and very reliable and the software has improved significantly. They also have player to player transfers. They have a presence on this forum and best of all they really seem to "get it". No, I'm not a Winning affiliate or shill, don't even go there. I'm genuinely curious why this site isn't totally taking all the serious Merge MTT and SNG traffic.

They've made good strides in their MTT schedule and they have a great new TD who actually listens to what players want. They are about to host a really good tournament series and in December there will be a great SNG promotion.

Maybe this needs a new thread IDK but I'd love to know why we keep playing on Merge when we could be moving over to Winning and making it a great site for all of us.

Personally I've played there over a year and I really like it. If they had the MTT schedule Merge had before they started screwing it up (and that was way before the last change) I could get in most of my play there, if they had the traffic to make the gtds Merge had back then.

I'm as guilty as the next person for staying on Merge but that's only because I have to to get in the games I need. They keep kicking us in the teeth and we just keep on playing there. It's time to stop, when is enough enough?

Sad thing, even after this rant I'm about to load up some games.

Title should read "Why do US players still play on Merge instead of moving to Winning". I suck at typing, getting a mod to fix it.

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agree totally..... Merge used to be the boss site to play on but they really have tightened up there assholes... First it was no more rakeback.... then no p2p transfers.... then no more vip freerolls at end of month.... then no more freerolls at all.... then this NEW tourney schedule (which blows dick)....Although winnings mtt schedule is not that great either they are making improvements where as merge is going downhill..... Big Sigh

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I think you over glamorizing Winning just a bit.

They can't be taken seriously until they stop their site from getting hacked or whatever the problem that causes it to go down several times a week.

Also not sure how you say that they have the best customer service when it is incumbent upon the player to inform them what games they need to refund you for. Otherwise, if you don't do that, you don't get refunded. That's far from great customer service.

Also yeah they did revamp their schedule but they didn't go far enough imo. There aren't enough mtts to play and there are still glaring holes in the schedule. They refuse to fill prime time with more games to play. I'm glad that they have a moderated forum on 2+2 but that dude doesn't really seem to take much feedback.

Tbh now that Lock is finally off revolution, I expect them to make a run and I look forward to getting back on Tops as that has been the best site post BF. In fact they are having a 10k guar this Sunday so it looks like things are looking up there.

Don't get me wrong Winning still has some good value but they're frustrating cause there a several easy 3-4 foot putts that they're missing.

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I agree with all your points, and yeah I probably am over glamorizing it a bit. Intertops is definitely a great site and when the MTTs were going full steam on there it was pretty good, but that software is pretty bad.

I just get sick of all the BS with Merge, baboons could run a business better than those morons. I've been a big supporter of Merge even before BF but I'm just so over it with them.

It's just a sad state of affairs for US players :(

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I agree with all your points, and yeah I probably am over glamorizing it a bit. Intertops is definitely a great site and when the MTTs were going full steam on there it was pretty good, but that software is pretty bad.

I just get sick of all the BS with Merge, baboons could run a business better than those morons. I've been a big supporter of Merge even before BF but I'm just so over it with them.

It's just a sad state of affairs for US players :(

Def. Hasn't really been much worse than this post BF.

But you think Winning's software is better than Revolutions? I prefer Revolutions software by leaps and bounds over Winnings. Winning is so clunky and hard to navigate imo. In fact I was just playing some tonight at Tops and I remembered why I liked their software so much.

But TBH I couldn't care less about the quality of the software, so long as its playable. Just pay me in a reasonable period of time and I'll play there. Winning and Tops both do that. Hopefully Revolution will get their mtt sched back on track, Winning will find away to shed the hackers. Then I'll bite the bullet and jump on Bovada and just grind those three networks. F Merge.

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I don't hate the Rev software but remember how it used to crash and burn every Sunday? I did like playing on Intertops though, I'd be happy to get back on there with some good MTTs.

Winning's software is annoying for sure but it's definitely better than it was. They're making slow progress but it is really slow. I just wonder why it's so hard for these sites to get decent software.

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not sure about all of the merge skins... but sportsbook as disabled the vip system for me... then they disabled my vip booster for sngs and told me the promo is supposed to be ended... yet i know other players that it still works for... then today they limited my tables and entries to 4 tables... support told me that it was a decision made november 1st.... yet again i already confirmed with other players their limit is still ten... pffffffft gg sportsbook

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not sure about all of the merge skins... but sportsbook as disabled the vip system for me... then they disabled my vip booster for sngs and told me the promo is supposed to be ended... yet i know other players that it still works for... then today they limited my tables and entries to 4 tables... support told me that it was a decision made november 1st.... yet again i already confirmed with other players their limit is still ten... pffffffft gg sportsbook

I'm hearing the 4 table thing is across the board. I've seen lots of post about it on 2p2. That and the VIP thing totally blows.

They PO/SB were getting too many regs moving over to "prey" on their fish so they know regs want to play lots of tables and regs care about VIP stuff, fish don't. I'm sure this is their way to protect their precious recreational model. Fuck 'em.

If Bovada would just get synch'd breaks they could totally take over the US market. I can live with the anonymous tables since I feel the benefits of them at least balance the negatives and the software is very tolerable but the no synch'd breaks just kills me. I can even live without a HUD and you can use Tournament/Holdem Indicator on there.

I'll say it again such a sad, sad state of affairs and the saddest part is it's not being caused by the US government, other than the initial bull shit. These sites had a great opportunity and blew it, so dumb.

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Im going to play some tourneys for the first time in along time. I am personally going with wpn because of positive payout feedback which in my opionion is the most important piece of the puzzle. Also good timing for that series coming up since im off all week! Hope it runs good and site stays up!

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If bovada had sn's,sync's and hem worked they would be by far the best option. I was using ti but you get such a small sample and the info with it is very limited. After being on that site for a week and not getting over on my dep I'm starting to feel oi. Now with po going to absolute dog sht as bad as it sounds I'm tempted to get back on carbon again along with bcp since there's not enough action on bcp to run a proper session. I just hope that with the new regulated sites we can just right click sn's for notes and can just use the huds than I'll be very tempted to move.

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They did a chip chop for me and I had the money in my account when I logged in today. I didn't see the amount and called customer service and they were great. I'd have rather won outright and I did get $110 less than 1st place money which blows but they handled it great.

You get used to software and they are rapidly improving it. I can live with the software for the fast cashouts and great customer service.

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They did a chip chop for me and I had the money in my account when I logged in today. I didn't see the amount and called customer service and they were great. I'd have rather won outright and I did get $110 less than 1st place money which blows but they handled it great.

You get used to software and they are rapidly improving it. I can live with the software for the fast cashouts and great customer service.

which network are you referring to?

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