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The speed of the game. Online poker vs. Live poker.

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Chachi54    10

I always seem to get cold feet when it gets closer to the time to play a live poker event. My plan for January is to play a live event in Mississippi. In online poker, I have great success in the early stages of the tournament but my weakness is during the middle stage where all of the late registration players are joining. Players are careless with their hands and the pots I would pick up with ease during the first stages are harder to win. AK called by 93 off suit and they win a coin flip. Once ITM, my play improves if my stack is near the middle of the remaining field.

The biggest question I have is how do you adjust your play from online poker to live poker? Does the speed of the game positively or negatively change your game? Should I take lessons learned from online poker play and use it to my advantage in live poker?

Thanks for any advice.

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cage    10

AK vs 93o is a coinflip? You might want to look at that shit in depth before putting any more cash into poker.

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cage    10

Sorry Chachi, I was being a bit of a tool there. My experience of live is that people call a lot more than online so the situations of having your good hand wrecked by trash are even more frequent than online. I think you need to find a way of adjusting to whatever is happening around you, as always, and good spots will arise. You will obviously be playing far fewer hands than online so try to stay alert and watch who you try to bluff because live poker is infested with calling stations. GL man.

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negrealanu    10

Chachi54 - We all take some pretty terrible bad beats. Would it make you feel better if I showed you 10 or more examples of hands where I lost thousands of dollars of equity in a single hand? It's a part of the game and you really need to shift your mindset/paradigm/world view into being grateful that you are getting action with such a huge amount of equity. I get you were probably tilting when you wrote this and hopefully cooled off since then, but you need to find a way to laugh it off and get back in there and crush. That's what being a tough player is all about.

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Chachi54    10

I was on a bit of a downswing when I made the last comment. I took about a week away to step back and refocus. The same hand situation has happened multiple times in the past few weeks. Some in my favor and others not. I have adjusted my game plan to not count on winning with pocket A, K, or Q. Learning to get over the bad hands quickly has been helpful. Just recently, I have been working on playing in the correct table position. Building the tower to success one step at a time.

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cage    10

Cool Chachi, you can't control the randomness but you can control how you handle it, sounds like you are getting to grips with it, GL man.

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saukendar    0

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This is exactly what I was talking about. I understand every hand has a chance but it does happen quite often.

I've got a better bo-ho about live poker. One weekend I ran KK into AA 5 times in a row to get crippled and then bust out of 3 tournies :)

Can you say variance?

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Chachi54    10

Update: Finally played in my first live poker tournament. The play was extremely slow compared to online poker. 1/10 the hands in a 30 minute period. Took it slow and focused on the fundamentals. Won first pot with a raise when an A showed up on the turn. Guy folded and showed KK. I showed him 109s that missed the flop. Tons of tight players that you could steal the blinds and antes from. After 5 hours of play, I had KK. I slow played to the flop which was 3Q9. The aggressive player to my right bet half my stack and I shoved all in. He flipped over AJ. Turn 7. River A.

Overall, my confidence level is much higher than when I started. Plan to take on some small buy in tournaments in Florida around September.

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Chachi54    10

It has been a year since I started this thread and I can now give my experience on online vs. live poker. Over the last year, I have played in 5 live tournaments at 3 different locations.  The biggest thing to get use to would be the atmosphere of the casino. Once you get the nervous part out of you, you can settle down and play your game. You see way less hands in live poker than online. After the first hour of play, you get a good idea of everyone's playing style. Some talk all the time about having top tier hands but will fold to counter aggression. You have the players that will fold everything expect a small amount of hands and kick up the aggression when they have it. Once you get use to recognizing the different characters, you can adjust to exploit each type. You have more time to think in live poker but don't spend forever on every hand. The blinds seem to go up faster since you play less hands per hour. Keeping up with stack sizes and pot sizes is more difficult but not hard if you pay attention. You can't bring the game with you on bathroom breaks. This last one is probably a good thing.  

 

No surprise here that live poker hands can act just like the online hands. Poker is poker. I have 2 examples where I was dealt Pocket AA. 1 busted me out of the tournament and the other would have if I did not fold on the turn. Do not get married to a hand in online and live. Stop and think of every hand that can beat you and what range you put your opponent on. In my first live tournament, I played very tight to get a feel of the game but was very observant. An aggressive player who likes to play every hand raised 3BB when I was in the BB. I decided to mix it up a bit since I was playing so tight and called with 10d9d. Flop was a bust for me but an Ace came out. I check raised my opponent to see if that Ace was a scare card for him. After a few moments of him talking and saying, "Damn every time I get a hand this shit happens.", he folded and showed me pocket KK. 

 

I try to go once a quarter to play some live poker. To avoid not breaking the bank, I only play with money I cash out from online poker. Made 1 live cash at a small $50 tournament. Happy with my overall play in 3 out of 5. Lessons learned by playing over a thousand online tournaments have helped set some muscle memory at the live table. I continue to studying and working on improving my game. Next challenge for me is to play a live cash game. Probably in Omaha Hi-Low since I have success in the online cash games. 

 

Success or failure are both important during every session. I always try to look at positives and negative or each tournament or cash game session.

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109s not 108s
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