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Great Call or Obvious Collusion? I say the latter!

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ChipBleeder    0

No way this is simply a good call, right?

Game started at: 2018/3/29 23:3:35

Game ID: 1161233842 600/1200 $10,000 GTD 8-Max, Table 24 (Hold'em)

Seat 8 is the button

Seat 1: Wsopboy1993 (44821).

Seat 2: MoZZZZy (39893).

Seat 3: RikSmits45 (39757).

Seat 4: ChipBleeder (17376).

Seat 5: dadsgravy (47996).

Seat 6: ICURANIT (23260).

Seat 7: schuey177 (35198).

Seat 8: akilis (25942).

Player Wsopboy1993 ante (120)

Player MoZZZZy ante (120)

Player RikSmits45 ante (120)

Player ChipBleeder ante (120)

Player dadsgravy ante (120)

Player ICURANIT ante (120)

Player schuey177 ante (120)

Player akilis ante (120)

Player Wsopboy1993 has small blind (600)

Player MoZZZZy has big blind (1200)

Player Wsopboy1993 received a card.

Player Wsopboy1993 received a card.

Player MoZZZZy received a card.

Player MoZZZZy received a card.

Player RikSmits45 received a card.

Player RikSmits45 received a card.

Player ChipBleeder received card: [5d]

Player ChipBleeder received card: [Qs]

Player dadsgravy received a card.

Player dadsgravy received a card.

Player ICURANIT received a card.

Player ICURANIT received a card.

Player schuey177 received a card.

Player schuey177 received a card.

Player akilis received a card.

Player akilis received a card.

Player RikSmits45 folds

Player ChipBleeder folds

Player dadsgravy raises (2765)

Player ICURANIT folds

Player schuey177 folds

Player akilis folds

Player Wsopboy1993 raises (7800)

Player MoZZZZy folds

Player dadsgravy calls (5635)

*** FLOP ***: [2s 8c 7s]

Player Wsopboy1993 checks

Player dadsgravy checks

*** TURN ***: [2s 8c 7s] [10c]

Player Wsopboy1993 checks

Player dadsgravy bets (8400)

Player Wsopboy1993 calls (8400)

*** RIVER ***: [2s 8c 7s 10c] [4s]

Player Wsopboy1993 checks

Player dadsgravy allin (31076)

Player Wsopboy1993 allin (27901)

Uncalled bet (3175) returned to dadsgravy

------ Summary ------

Pot: 91562. Rake 0

Board: [2s 8c 7s 10c 4s]

*Player Wsopboy1993 shows: One pair of 6s [6h 6d]. Bets: 44821. Collects: 91562. Wins: 46741.

Player MoZZZZy does not show cards.Bets: 1320. Collects: 0. Loses: 1320.

Player RikSmits45 does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.

Player ChipBleeder does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.

Player dadsgravy shows: High card A [Ad Jc]. Bets: 44821. Collects: 0. Loses: 44821.

Player ICURANIT does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.

Player schuey177 does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.

Player akilis does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.

Game ended at: 2018/3/29 23:5:45

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DuQueen2Q    0

Certainly not collusion. I have played thousands of hands with the hero, he is a very competitive, very solid player. Hero correctly assumed that how the hand played out, villain's line isn't the most credible as far as repping enough value hands (ie flushes/straights) to be able to shove this river after checking back the flop. I like his call with the 66, as he unblocks all of the broadway hands that would surely be firing turn and river to get him to fold hands like ak, aq, and aj(which are a large part of hero's range)

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FlopDeck    0

Good call. Going into a tournament with a predetermined thought that you're being scammed is counter productive. Should be learning from this call rather than assuming it's crazy and calling bs/collusion etc.

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H0RUS    0

all i know is he cracked my aces last night

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Game started at: 2018/4/1 22:12:55

Game ID: 1163721826 1000/2000 $20,000 GTD Big Antes, Table 8 (Hold'em)

Seat 8 is the button

Seat 1: TellIt2MyHeart (49426).

Seat 2: Wsopboy1993 (48373).

Seat 3: MysticSoul (37315).

Seat 4: Tanizaki (78021).

Seat 5: BlueBeagle88 (28902).

Seat 6: MIG0S ATL (17758).

Seat 7: AriZahav (58903).

Seat 8: ali23imsirovic (126031).

Player TellIt2MyHeart ante (400)

Player Wsopboy1993 ante (400)

Player MysticSoul ante (400)

Player Tanizaki ante (400)

Player BlueBeagle88 ante (400)

Player MIG0S ATL ante (400)

Player AriZahav ante (400)

Player ali23imsirovic ante (400)

Player TellIt2MyHeart has small blind (1000)

Player Wsopboy1993 has big blind (2000)

Player TellIt2MyHeart received a card.

Player TellIt2MyHeart received a card.

Player Wsopboy1993 received a card.

Player Wsopboy1993 received a card.

Player MysticSoul received a card.

Player MysticSoul received a card.

Player Tanizaki received a card.

Player Tanizaki received a card.

Player BlueBeagle88 received a card.

Player BlueBeagle88 received a card.

Player MIG0S ATL received card: [Ac]

Player MIG0S ATL received card: [Ah]

Player AriZahav received a card.

Player AriZahav received a card.

Player ali23imsirovic received a card.

Player ali23imsirovic received a card.

Player MysticSoul folds

Player Tanizaki folds

Player BlueBeagle88 folds

Player MIG0S ATL allin (17358)

Player AriZahav folds

Player ali23imsirovic folds

Player TellIt2MyHeart allin (48026)

Player Wsopboy1993 allin (45973)

Uncalled bet (1053) returned to TellIt2MyHeart

*** FLOP ***: [3h 5d 8h]

*** TURN ***: [3h 5d 8h] [3s]

*** RIVER ***: [3h 5d 8h 3s] [6s]

------ Summary ------

Pot: 116504. Rake 0

Board: [3h 5d 8h 3s 6s]

Player TellIt2MyHeart shows: One pair of 3s [As Qc]. Bets: 48373. Collects: 0. Loses: 48373.

*Player Wsopboy1993 shows: Full House (8/3) [8s 8d]. Bets: 48373. Collects: 116504. Wins: 68131.

Player MysticSoul does not show cards.Bets: 400. Collects: 0. Loses: 400.

Player Tanizaki does not show cards.Bets: 400. Collects: 0. Loses: 400.

Player BlueBeagle88 does not show cards.Bets: 400. Collects: 0. Loses: 400.

Player MIG0S ATL shows: Two pairs. As and 3s [Ac Ah]. Bets: 17758. Collects: 0. Loses: 17758.

Player AriZahav does not show cards.Bets: 400. Collects: 0. Loses: 400.

Player ali23imsirovic does not show cards.Bets: 400. Collects: 0. Loses: 400.

Game ended at: 2018/4/1 22:13:28

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double_kyan    0

collusion??? You make this wild accusation based on presuming someone wanted to dump their chips?? Bunch of horse shit spewing out of your mouth without merit. First of all WSOP 3b's 66 on him and the 9 hi flush draw board goes check check . I wish i could see the timing of all of this as well , but anyhow. Dadsgravy leads the turn with the 10 hitting the board, WSOP calls . when that flush card hits the river dads gravy goes all in. If WSOP calls instantly then hats off for pegging him on 2 over cards. However WSOP probably went through the motions of the action and if Dads had a flush draw I think he creates action on the flop since the pot got beefed during pf. Dads doesnt play this like a set of TT or 99 but im super curious if he instant jammed the river which reeks of bluff btw this hand was played imo. The action maybe the timing too idk ,but also I wouldnt doubt If WSOP had a read on priors with this guy as well. Which led to his over card hand being very readable. Nice play and pretty weaksauce of u to yell collusion....... I called a guy with jack high the other day and got that sh1t right......yelling collusion is just wrong

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