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$33BB ITM - Was my shove +EV or too loose?

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MEEEEOOOOW    10

https://upswingpoker.com/hand/?pokeit=724dBbDFf

 

Im really not sure if I was hunting too wide but my considerations were that the original all in shove was about 9BB and his range I thought would be really wide. Like A5 off etc, think it was unlucky to run into his AA but the most important part was the biggest stack waking up with QQ and knocking me out.

 

I really tanked over the decision as I knew if I flat called the 9BB shove and got reraised all-in it wouldn't be a great situation as me shoving enabled more fold equity and I think it was the right play but just unfortunate to have run into a monster.

 

But shoving nearly 40BB seems a LOT with JQs but as its a bounty I think it might be justified.

 

Would appreciate some feedback on it...

 


PokerStars Hand #197188911555: Tournament #2532411409, $15+$15+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (2500/5000) - 2019/02/18 0:07:32 WET [2019/02/17 19:07:32 ET]
Table '2532411409 269' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: niilron (157588 in chips, $108.27 bounty)
Seat 2: yanina-yana (89649 in chips, $161.24 bounty)
Seat 3: marcelo v121 (297347 in chips, $174.60 bounty)
Seat 4: cristianooft (247016 in chips, $124.68 bounty)
Seat 5: igotthrees (44547 in chips, $143.41 bounty)
Seat 6: DonkeyKooong (62671 in chips, $149.52 bounty)
Seat 7: MEEEEOOOOW (198973 in chips, $213.26 bounty)
Seat 8: tutuca1987 (139182 in chips, $112.02 bounty)
Seat 9: Jota S2 (355336 in chips, $199.38 bounty)
niilron: posts the ante 800
yanina-yana: posts the ante 800
marcelo v121: posts the ante 800
cristianooft: posts the ante 800
igotthrees: posts the ante 800
DonkeyKooong: posts the ante 800
MEEEEOOOOW: posts the ante 800
tutuca1987: posts the ante 800
Jota S2: posts the ante 800
yanina-yana: posts small blind 2500
marcelo v121: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MEEEEOOOOW [Jh Qh]
cristianooft: folds
igotthrees: raises 38747 to 43747 and is all-in
DonkeyKooong: folds
MEEEEOOOOW: raises 154426 to 198173 and is all-in
tutuca1987: folds
Jota S2: raises 156363 to 354536 and is all-in
niilron: folds
yanina-yana: folds
marcelo v121: folds
Uncalled bet (156363) returned to Jota S2
*** FLOP *** [As 3h 5c]
*** TURN *** [As 3h 5c] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [As 3h 5c 6s] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MEEEEOOOOW: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Fives)
Jota S2: shows [Qd Qs] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
Jota S2 collected 308852 from side pot
igotthrees: shows [Ac Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
igotthrees collected 145941 from main pot
Jota S2 wins $106.63 for eliminating MEEEEOOOOW and their own bounty increases by $106.63 to $306.01
MEEEEOOOOW finished the tournament in 179th place and received $94.44.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 454793 Main pot 145941. Side pot 308852. | Rake 0
Board [As 3h 5c 6s 5d]
Seat 1: niilron (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yanina-yana (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: marcelo v121 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cristianooft folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: igotthrees showed [Ac Ah] and won (145941) with a full house, Aces full of Fives
Seat 6: DonkeyKooong folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MEEEEOOOOW showed [Jh Qh] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: tutuca1987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Jota S2 showed [Qd Qs] and won (308852) with two pair, Queens and Fives

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turbulence    10

The real money in bounty tournaments, especially progressive bounty type, is in the late stages. Risking tournament life in the early or mid stages for a relatively small bounty with a marginal hand is just not worth the risk. But it's a leak / mistake a huge number of players make. 

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hushpuckena    1

Actually,  I don't like flatting the open for better than 20 per cent of my stack, then folding to a shove. The problem with shoving yourself is illustrated in the hand: even if UTG+1 is opening light, when you get action behind,  it will likely only be from hands which are way ahead.

 

In short,  I just fold. Still plenty of time for a playable spot without forcing matters.

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with 5 people to act behind you I probably muck this here. I don't like flat calling because as mentioned above you would be folding to a shove and flushing chips down the drain for no good reason also I think your behind the original shovers range more than your ahead.

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FlopDeck    10

On 2/18/2019 at 2:54 AM, turbulence said:

given your table position I think flat calling and folding to a shove is ok with 40bb. It's a pretty hand but not worth your tournament life

 

Indeed. I agree.

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MEEEEOOOOW    10

Ok guys, after a few days to think about it I'm now thinking it wasn't a +EV move with 5 to act behind... was a bit bounty greedy and should have flat and folded I think.. pretty hand lured me in!

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FlopDeck    10

6 minutes ago, turbulence said:

The real money in bounty tournaments, especially progressive bounty type, is in the late stages. Risking tournament life in the early or mid stages for a relatively small bounty with a marginal hand is just not worth the risk. But it's a leak / mistake a huge number of players make. 

 

Noted 😉

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