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I agree with Skeeze. Conspiracy theories are fun and all but I can’t imagine this theory to be true. You would have to be one sick sob to make a film with this kind of twist and never come out with it.  
 

I wonder if this same conspiracy theorist has a video about The Sixth Sense. Bruce Willis is actually alive and it’s the kid who is dead. 😉

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Kubrick 

33 minutes ago, JKR said:

I agree with Skeeze. Conspiracy theories are fun and all but I can’t imagine this theory to be true. You would have to be one sick sob to make a film with this kind of twist and never come out with it.  
 

I wonder if this same conspiracy theorist has a video about The Sixth Sense. Bruce Willis is actually alive and it’s the kid who is dead. 😉

Kubrick was a bizarre person. Before he died, The Shining was already one of the most critiqued films. I don't think he would want to end the debate surrounding the movie by giving any type of conclusive answer. 

 

Outside of the obvious intentional set changes, the two biggest reasons I believe this to be true are the fade to Shelley Duvall from room 237 to the boiler room and it finally answers the question of how Jack ever got out of the storage freezer. There is no way in hell Kubrick just blatantly passes over that massive plot hole.

 

Also, Kubrick and Stephen King didn't have much respect for one another. They apparently had a pretty bitter phone call prior to filming, with Kubrick even saying "he didn't believe in ghosts". Outside of major events of the novel, the characters are not very similar at all. Kubrick was not adapting the book, only using it to set the stage 

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One last thing to add to the Shining Theory that wasn't part of the video. When Jack Torrence was locked in the storage freezer he is sleeping on massive bags of salt. 1417262125_hollysalt(1).png.ac9d8b28512aff92be8ca5270e0444b6.pngQYsJOWdv_400x400.jpg.94255b763bcb78ec627e36a33251e6c6.jpg

Ironically, the film set used salt to create the illusion of snow throughout the whole movie. This all but confirms to me that Jack was outside, unconscious, and freezing to death in the snow, while Wendy is hallucinating this scene

 

The Shining never really terrified me the way it did others. Shelley Duvall's character was always the most unnerving part of this movie for me. Looking at the film in this way makes it way more haunting and it blows my mind. 

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On 3/19/2021 at 3:15 PM, acp said:

Kid90 on Hulu was way better than I expected. Definitely worth watching.

 

Caught a trailer of this over the weekend.  Looks like a good walk down nostalgia lane for me.  The majority of the actors are about the same age as me and I watched a decent amount of the shows they were in.

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Easy ones are Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Back to the Future, Brewster's Millions for 3 of the brackets although First Blood fucking rocks too.  Real tough call for me between Commando and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.  Probably slight lean to Mad Max although I've seen Commando at least 5x the amount of times.

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On 3/24/2021 at 8:57 AM, wantagolf said:

Not that i'm trying to actually do the bracket, but if all these movies were released in 1985, what a freaking year for movies.

 

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Haven't seen 6 of these...

 

Went through a few times in my head and keep coming up with:

 

Back to The Future vs. Goonies

Brewster's Millions vs. Fletch/Better off Dead

 

My gut tells me that I'd go Back to the Future over Fletch, but I think my finals would change every so often if I looked through these and watched them all over a few days...

 

 

Also- this makes me want to run another movie bracket thread... just so difficult to do one where enough people have seen them and want to participate... Will give it some thought.

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56 minutes ago, skeeze666 said:

 

Haven't seen 6 of these...

 

Went through a few times in my head and keep coming up with:

 

Back to The Future vs. Goonies

Brewster's Millions vs. Fletch/Better off Dead

 

My gut tells me that I'd go Back to the Future over Fletch, but I think my finals would change every so often if I looked through these and watched them all over a few days...

 

 

Also- this makes me want to run another movie bracket thread... just so difficult to do one where enough people have seen them and want to participate... Will give it some thought.

 

Do it but for a year that actually has some good movies to debate over.

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Watched "The Little Things" against my better judgement last night.  6.3 on IMDB means pointless dogshit 95% of the time.

 

I dunno tho, I don't regret watching it.  It was entertaining long enough for me.  Ultimately it's just not that good at what it's trying to do but it gets close enough for me.  It's somewhere between a 6.5 and 7 imo.  I like ambiguous shit that leaves you debating the ending of a movie, even if you're debating over how steaming the shitpile was.

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On 3/25/2021 at 2:04 PM, skeeze666 said:

 

Haven't seen 6 of these...

 

Went through a few times in my head and keep coming up with:

 

Back to The Future vs. Goonies

Brewster's Millions vs. Fletch/Better off Dead

 

My gut tells me that I'd go Back to the Future over Fletch, but I think my finals would change every so often if I looked through these and watched them all over a few days...

 

 

Also- this makes me want to run another movie bracket thread... just so difficult to do one where enough people have seen them and want to participate... Will give it some thought.


You can pick four different years and battle it out tourney style, 16 films from each year

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Rolling Stone had this to say about the 90s:

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-lists/the-100-greatest-movies-of-the-nineties-195513/ 

 

1. Goodfellas

2. Hoop Dreams

3. Safe

4. Silence of the Lambs

5. Pulp Fiction

6. Close Up

7. Slacker

8. Malcom X

9. Chungking Express

10. The Piano

 

IndieWire said this https://www.indiewire.com/2017/07/best-films-movies-90s-1201852966/:

 

1. Goodfellas

2. Close Up

3. Pulp Fiction

4. Groundhog Day

5. Chungking Express

6. Hoop Dreams

7. Dazed and Confused

8. Beau Travail

9. Being John Malkovich

10. Heat

 

Ranker

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/favorite-movies-of-the-90s 

 

1. Shawshank Redemption

2. Forrest Gump

3. Jurassic Park

4. Terminator 2

5. Braveheart

6. The Lion King

7. Saving Private Ryan

8. Goodfellas

9. Toy Story

10. Silence of the Lambs

 

Screenrant IMDB

https://screenrant.com/top-movies-90s-according-imdb/

 

1. Schindler's List

2. American Beauty

3. Shawshank Redemption

4. Pulp Fiction

5. Braveheart

6. Silence of the Lambs

7. Goodfellas

8. Unforgiven

9. Forrest Gump

10. Saving Private Ryan

 

Mentalfloss 

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/586669/1990s-best-movies

 

1. Goodfellas

2. To Sleep with Anger

3. Silence of the Lambs

4. Bozy N The Hood

5. Beauty and the Beast

6. Unforgiven

7. Raise the Red Lantern

8. Schindler's List

9. Pulp Fiction

10. Before Sunrise

 

Ebert's 10 best:

1. "Hoop Dreams"

2. "Pulp Fiction"

3. "GoodFellas"

4. "Fargo"

5. "Three Colors Trilogy": "Blue," "White," and "Red"

6. "Schindler's List"

7. "Breaking the Waves"

8. "Leaving Las Vegas"

9. "Malcolm X"

10. "JFK"

Scorsese's 10 best:

1. "Horse Thief"

2. "The Thin Red Line"

3. "A Borrowed Life"

4. "Eyes Wide Shut"

5. "Bad Lieutenant"

6. "Breaking the Waves"

7. "Bottle Rocket"

8. "Crash"

9. "Fargo"

10. "Malcolm X" and "Heat" (tie)

 

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Hoop Dreams is easily in my top 10 of the 90s and probably top 25 all time for me.  I have no idea how it plays to someone who wasn't a basketball player, and the fact that it came out when I was right around the peak of my high school playing days certainly plays heavily into it.

 

I need to Chungking Express, apparently... Also, Heat is definitely a top favorite of mine.

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