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Conservatives back to pretending to be concerned about spending.  How many unemployment checks did you gladly take in rather than getting a job last year Hacker?  Now you want to sit here all up in arms about spending. How pathetic of man are you? 

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59 minutes ago, Ozzie said:

I'm just laughing at people for caring about a business failing because it can't compete with unemployment.   If your employees would be financially better off getting laid off, your business has already failed.  

I'm so confused by this line.  Do you think people living off unemployment are receiving enough to check whatever boxes you wish min wage did?  I doubt it's even close.  Also, isn't unemployment limited to like a few months?  


Does it say something that you consider a 3 month paycheck with nothing beyond it better than having a steadyish job or path of employment/skills you can rely on afterwards?

 

Unless there is a disability or some special circumstance, actually choosing unemployment over working is a clear reflection on the person and their willingness to put in work at the time.  Choosing extended unemployment is a great ingredient to ensure you gain no skills, record of reliability or attraction of being hired.  If that's the choice someone would make, then it makes sense why they can't ever get a job above the minimum.


Just to be clear, this conversation is very different when we talk about people with no choice or at higher $ pay levels-but you're not implying that.  

 

Do you have such little faith in people that you don't think they could earn more than unemployment? 

 

 

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Just to be clear-

 

Wouldn't choosing to receive unemployment benefits over a low paying job require fraud?  I was under the impression you were supposed to be looking for a job to receive unemployment.

 

 

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The more I dive into unemployment, the more I get the impression that people who speak this way just do not take the time to look at how things get paid.

 

Isn't unemployment a function of your prior pay? Meaning that almost anyone who would be in the min wage unemployment category isn't getting jack shit.  Yet Ozzie tells us it's better than working min wage?

 

If I'm wrong, please point me to some data.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ozzie said:

I give niptuck a lot of shit about most everything but hes always sounded like a good dude to work for.

 

The minimum wage argument is absolutely worth having, not sure I've said anything about it specifically.   I'm just laughing at people for caring about a business failing because it can't compete with unemployment.   If your employees would be financially better off getting laid off, your business has already failed.  

 

 

Thanks Ozzie.  I think you, and most berals, have your heart in the right place.  You're not looking to exploit anyone and you want everyone to have opportunities to better themselves. Most  Republicans, believe it or not, agree.

 

Liberals a good people that are ignorant.  Not dumb at all but ignorant.  Start a non-subsidized business and you will no longer have  the same thoughts nor ignorance.

 

Business is a dog eat dog war.  Hugs don't pay the bills.  Hugs and good intentions don't fend of a competitor that charges less for similar products and services. 

 

Obviously there are several business like Starbucks or delta or Amazon that NOW can afford to be liberal and make hiring and pay decisions based on feelings vs skills because they're huge companies.  But for every one of those there's hundreds of business ow.ers that wen bankrupt trying to build their business on emotions. 

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46 minutes ago, Shaaarrrp said:

I'm so confused by this line.  Do you think people living off unemployment are receiving enough to check whatever boxes you wish min wage did?  I doubt it's even close.  Also, isn't unemployment limited to like a few months?  


Does it say something that you consider a 3 month paycheck with nothing beyond it better than having a steadyish job or path of employment/skills you can rely on afterwards?

 

Unless there is a disability or some special circumstance, actually choosing unemployment over working is a clear reflection on the person and their willingness to put in work at the time.  Choosing extended unemployment is a great ingredient to ensure you gain no skills, record of reliability or attraction of being hired.  If that's the choice someone would make, then it makes sense why they can't ever get a job above the minimum.


Just to be clear, this conversation is very different when we talk about people with no choice or at higher $ pay levels-but you're not implying that.  

 

Do you have such little faith in people that you don't think they could earn more than unemployment? 

 

 

 

Why are you having so much trouble following the conversation?

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Sorry, I should have referred to raisethis a few times.  I accidentally attributed to Ozzie.   I apologize.  That said, it's clear yalls thinking align in many ways so it's easy to get confused.  

 

It takes a huge logical leap to start to talk about unemployment as something a decent person seeking a living wage could arguably find competitive vs getting paid for what they could find.  The same sort that it takes to talk about requiring businesses to pay worse workers more specifically because they are older and less prepared to do the work.   

 

For the record-I believe people on your side have good intentions but the way you describe things like the attractiveness of unemployment vs work is incredibly demeaning to the people you are referring to.  

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Rudy Guliani has some expensive legal issues he has to fight because of all the fake election conspiracy lies he told the American people. He reaches out to Trump for a little financial consideration since he told these fables on Trump's behalf. 

 

Trump says fuck ya, you're on your own. 

 

Who could have seen that coming? 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, raisethis2 said:

Rudy Guliani has some expensive legal issues he has to fight because of all the fake election conspiracy lies he told the American people. He reaches out to Trump for a little financial consideration since he told these fables on Trump's behalf. 

 

Trump says fuck ya, you're on your own. 

 

Who could have seen that coming? 

 

 

So is this what the left is upset about this week compared to the right being upset about waste to society’s staying home and collect an inflated unemployment check? 

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8 hours ago, Shaaarrrp said:

Sorry, I should have referred to raisethis a few times.  I accidentally attributed to Ozzie.   I apologize.  That said, it's clear yalls thinking align in many ways so it's easy to get confused.  

 

It takes a huge logical leap to start to talk about unemployment as something a decent person seeking a living wage could arguably find competitive vs getting paid for what they could find.  The same sort that it takes to talk about requiring businesses to pay worse workers more specifically because they are older and less prepared to do the work.   

 

For the record-I believe people on your side have good intentions but the way you describe things like the attractiveness of unemployment vs work is incredibly demeaning to the people you are referring to.  

The conversation began with hacker spewing nonsense.  Cause of a bad jobs report. And 9$hr employees deciding to keep taking their 700$ a week until septmeber. And how big bad biden is going to use that as an excuse for more stimulus. 
 

Per usual hes wrong. But the original point wasnt just about unemployment but the enhanced unemployment. 
 

ozzies point being if you want your 9$ an br employees back before september maybe pay them 10$ an hour plus some extra incentives/benefits?  Imo it wont take the full 700$ a week salary for the most part. 

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22 minutes ago, 7HeAdShoTs said:

So is this what the left is upset about this week compared to the right being upset about waste to society’s staying home and collect an inflated unemployment check? 

 

Not upset at all. I just wanted to point out that "Dear Leader" is such a lowlife he'd throw anyone under the bus. It doesn't matter that Guliani trashed his entire reputation for Trump, Trump only cares about Trump...............and money. 

 

Cheeto Jesus is a bad, bad man. 

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1 hour ago, 7HeAdShoTs said:

So is this what the left is upset about this week compared to the right being upset about waste to society’s staying home and collect an inflated unemployment check? 

So you are sad for managers  and owners having to work extra hours until september, but the minimum wage employees deciding to keep the enhanced unemployment until september are wastes of society?

 

got it. 

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2 hours ago, Tiger Woods said:


Not sure what stinks worse: your bullshit, or actual bull shit

 

I may have exaggerated by saying its tge #1 cause of pollution , but to say its bullshit is bullshit. Look it up. 

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Not sure why AU feels the need to downplay the amount of people taking in unemployment. No doubt this is being taken advantage of big time. Who implemented the increase? When was that? And lol at acting like it’s only people on the left taking advantage of the unemployment. Aaron Hacker is so fuckimg full of shit. There’s no doubt he was taking in unemployment checks last year instead of working. Unless his job allows him to browse OT 24/7 he definitely wasn’t working. But he’s such a pathetic excuse for a man he’ll come on here now and pretend to be up in arms over it. I know people on both sides of the aisle who were taking advantage of it. We all do. But now hypocrites like Aaron Hacker want to cry about it and pretend to be mad. 

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1 hour ago, XXEDPXX said:

Not sure why AU feels the need to downplay the amount of people taking in unemployment. No doubt this is being taken advantage of big time. Who implemented the increase? When was that? And lol at acting like it’s only people on the left taking advantage of the unemployment. Aaron Hacker is so fuckimg full of shit. There’s no doubt he was taking in unemployment checks last year instead of working. Unless his job allows him to browse OT 24/7 he definitely wasn’t working. But he’s such a pathetic excuse for a man he’ll come on here now and pretend to be up in arms over it. I know people on both sides of the aisle who were taking advantage of it. We all do. But now hypocrites like Aaron Hacker want to cry about it and pretend to be mad. 


LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
 

Official OT Reet Power Rankings 

 

1. ReetThis2

2.  Ozzie 

3.  Special Ed

4. aupoker 

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3 minutes ago, Aaron_Hacker said:


LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL

 

1. ReetThis2

2.  Ozzie 

3.  Special Ed

4. aupoker 

 

The list of sane OTers left. Go team!!!!!!

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I just bet someone $200 that mitch trubisky starts week 1 this year for the bears.   Now, I'm going to make list of people I think are dumb.

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1 hour ago, XXEDPXX said:

Not sure why AU feels the need to downplay the amount of people taking in unemployment. No doubt this is being taken advantage of big time. Who implemented the increase? When was that? And lol at acting like it’s only people on the left taking advantage of the unemployment. Aaron Hacker is so fuckimg full of shit. There’s no doubt he was taking in unemployment checks last year instead of working. Unless his job allows him to browse OT 24/7 he definitely wasn’t working. But he’s such a pathetic excuse for a man he’ll come on here now and pretend to be up in arms over it. I know people on both sides of the aisle who were taking advantage of it. We all do. But now hypocrites like Aaron Hacker want to cry about it and pretend to be mad. 

I dodnt mean to downplay the amount. Well at first i did. But more downplaying the ultimate effect it will have. 

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Once the govt has a victim sucking on its teete, its almost impossible to save them.

 

1. Dem govt wants them sucking. Thats another vote for life.

 

2. Why would anyone basic give up free money and not having to work? 

 

My baby momma has no education or skills. She been on the teete for 15 years. If she goes and gets a job, she will lose her govt cheese. So she doesnt get a job. She gets a drug addiction instead.Cause she has free time and free money.

 

Theres only a small percentage of humans who can get themselves off the teete once they are on it 

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5 hours ago, Sharonavich said:

Once the govt has a victim sucking on its teete, its almost impossible to save them.

 

1. Dem govt wants them sucking. Thats another vote for life.

 

2. Why would anyone basic give up free money and not having to work? 

 

Theres only a small percentage of humans who can get themselves off the teete once they are on it 

Even though I agree with much of this, I think the last statement is off.  I believe that plenty of individuals draw off unemployment after a layoff and then successfully find a job to where they no longer need or are eligible for unemployment.  Look at people like Jaybone.  Living off unemployment forever has to be an awful life unless you have another substantial income source and are essentially committing fraud.

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There we go.  Let's go invade Iran.  Can i rejoin?

 

U.S. Ships Fired Shots to Warn Off 13 Iranian Fast Boats Harassing U.S. Guided Missile Sub, Warships

 

A U.S. Coast Guard Cutter fired two rounds of warning shots at a swarm of Iranian fast boats harassing a Navy guided-missile submarine and other U.S. warships entering the Persian Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz early Monday, a Pentagon spokesperson told reporters this afternoon.

 

The 13 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) fast attack boats came within 150 yards of a group of six U.S. surface ships that were escorting the Ohio-class guided-missile submarine USS Georgia (SSGN-729), spokesperson John Kirby told reporters during a press briefing.

 

“The fast boats conducted unsafe and unprofessional maneuvers and failed to exercise due regard for the safety of U.S. forces as required under international law while operating in close proximity to U.S. Naval vessels that were transiting the Strait of Hormuz,” Kirby said.

 

“The boats approached the U.S. formation at high-speed closing in as close as 150 yards. After following all the appropriate and established procedures involving ships horn, blast bridge-to-bridge radio transmissions and other ways of communicating, U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Maui (WPB-1304) fired approximately 30 warning shots from a 50-caliber machine gun. After the second round of warning shots, the 13 fast attack craft from the IRGCN broke contact.”

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21 minutes ago, Tennis Bum said:

It's probably just an exercise... I don't buy that there's real discord. Iran is pretty connected to dem leadership.

 

Yeah, like Russia was tied to Trump? 

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