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  1. Daniel Negreanu (pictured) recently made his opinions about Borgata's lawsuit against Phil Ivey abundantly clear, going on several 140-character-fueled tirades defending his friend on Twitter. The Atlantic City casino is suing the poker legend for $9.6 million, claiming he won the cash using a technique it considers to be illegal. Negreanu, never afraid to speak his mind, started out by questioning the judgment of the casino staff, who allowed Ivey to allegedly run his "edge-sorting" scheme in the first place: "Been reading up on poker news lately and the people running the Borgata high-limit pit have to be incredibly stupid overall." In the Tweet, Negreanu is likely referring to the fact that casino management agreed to allow Ivey to raise his betting limit from $50,000 to $100,000 per hand after he had already won millions of dollars playing baccarat and then continued to allow him to play even though he had been accused of using "edge-sorting" at a London casino. He had praise for Ivey and reiterated the sentiment of many gamblers, saying, "My hat's off to any man who can get an edge on a big-time casino. It's just straight baller and I have zero empathy for the big fish." Going back to the mistakes made by management, Negreanu Tweeted, "Big fish sets all the rules, okays all the rules, they need to eat it when they get beat and not be whiny biatches about it." The "rules" to which he refers are the conditions for the high-limit session of baccarat set by Ivey (pictured) and approved by the casino. The seemingly strange requests included a dealer who spoke Mandarin Chinese and shuffled using an automatic shuffler, a private pit, the ability to have a guest at the table, and, most importantly, a deck of purple Gemaco playing cards. "It's appalling to free-roll customers," Negreanu continued. "Take their money if they lose but don't pay when they win? Are you for real Borgata? That's dirty." Negreanu continued the mini-tirade and called into question how Borgata's image could suffer with gamblers after the incident. "Suing customers who crushed your souls is a bad look. You got bent over. Might as well smile and enjoy it," he ranted. "No one in the world has empathy for Borgata in this. Stop playing victim because your hustle wasn't as good as Ivey's." The consummate gambler even admitted to having been played in the past, but always settled his debts. "I've been hustled before, but the idea of not paying was never even a consideration! Borgata - you got hustled bad. Get over it already," Negreanu said. In one of his final Tweets on the matter, Negreanu summed up how many gamblers view the whole situation. "Borgata, you thought Ivey was stupid and you tried to bury him. He hustled you, smoked you, and left you feeling silly. Stand responsible!" Borgata is suing Ivey, along with his alleged partner in the scheme Cheng Yin Sun and card manufacturer Gemacofor lack of quality control. Want the latest poker headlines and interviews? Follow PocketFives on Twitterand Like PocketFives on Facebook. You can also subscribe to our RSS feed.
  2. In April, the BorgataHotel, Casino, and Spa in Atlantic City filed a lawsuitin the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey against Phil Ivey (pictured), saying he allegedly cheated during several sessions of high-stakes baccarat in 2012 resulting winnings of nearly $10 million. --- PocketFives' news coverage is brought to you by Betsafe, one of the leading suppliers of online gaming products worldwide and a major sponsor of Gumball 3000. Sign up now for great bonuses, €3,000,000 guaranteed monthly, and plenty of live events! --- Ivey and his gaming partner, Cheng Yin Sun, were sued on 12 counts, including Fraudulent Inducement, Breach of Contract, and Breach of Implied Covenant of Good Faith and Fair Dealing. Ivey has now filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit. To recap the issue at hand, Ivey and Sun allegedly knew of a defect in the way the Gemaco-brand playing cards used by Borgata were cut, making the pattern on the back of the cards asymmetrical. In advance of a visit in April 2012, Ivey allegedly contacted Borgata to make special arrangements for the high-stakes baccarat game he wanted to play. He allegedly asked for a dealer that spoke Mandarin Chinese, an eight-deck shoe of purple Gemaco cards, permission to have his guest sit with him, a private gaming area, and an automatic card shuffler. His requests were granted and he also agreed to a maximum bet of $50,000 and an advance deposit of $1 million. During four visits spanning from April to October, Ivey and Sun allegedly asked the dealer to rotate key cards in the shoe once their values were revealed. Because of the asymmetrical patterns resulting from the miscut cards, it was possible to identify these cards before they were dealt from the shoe, giving Ivey a huge advantage. The automatic shuffler was key because it does not change the orientation of the cards, thus keeping this "edge-sorting" tactic in play. Over the course of the visits, Ivey won $9.8 million. Here's an infographic of a similar incident that occurred in London showing how edge-sorting works: Furious, Borgata sued Ivey in April of this year claiming he defrauded the casino by making his special requests under the pretext of superstition when he allegedly knew that he was going to be able to edge-sort if the requests were granted. In the motion to dismiss, Ivey's legal team made three main arguments. One is that Ivey and Sun simply did not cheat. They did nothing but use their eyes and intelligence to win; any unusual advantage they may have had was the result of concessions Borgata granted. "Plaintiff's complaint belies its own imaginative pleading," the motion read. "It was Borgata, and only Borgata, that produced, possessed, and maintained absolute control over all the implements of gambling, from the cards to the shoe to the automatic shuffler at all times while Ivey remained on its property." "The use of nothing more than his eyesight and his reliance upon information that was equally available to every single casino customer in no way equates with the [action and wrongful intent] required to accomplish any of the multiple criminal statutes upon which plaintiff relies," the motion added. Another argument Ivey's attorneys made is that even if what Ivey did were illegal, the six-month statute of limitations has expired. "As is obvious from the complaint, Borgata never reported any of the alleged 'illegalities' to the exclusive agency empowered to make that determination, the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement," they stated in the motion. Along those lines, the third argument made in the motion is that it is the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement that is allowed to go after Ivey, not the casino. The poker community has not had much reaction to the latest chapter in the Ivey/Borgata saga, but there was much discussion about it when Borgata originally filed its lawsuit. For example, poker pro Daniel Negreanu sided with Ivey at the time, Tweeting, "Big fish sets all the rules, okays all the rules, they need to eat it when they get beat and not be whiny biatches about it," adding, "It's appalling to freeroll customers. Take their money if they lose, but don't pay when they win? Are you for real Borgata? That's dirty." Negreanu is pictured. Stay tuned to PocketFives for the latest on this developing story. Want the latest poker headlines and interviews? Follow PocketFives on Twitterand Like PocketFives on Facebook. You can also subscribe to our RSS feed.
  3. Last week, a judge ruled against Phil Iveyin his high-stakes lawsuit against Crockfords casino in London, concluding that the poker pro had cheated by using edge-sorting to win $12.5 million at the baccarat tables. Daniel Negreanu (pictured), a six-time bracelet winner and friend of Ivey's, was stunned by the verdict and had some harsh words for the casino and the presiding judge in a recent interview. "I think it's ludicrous, I think it's absurd, completely unfair, and absolutely wrong," he told PokerListings. "Casinos, by nature, are designed to take advantage of people by manipulating and deceiving them into thinking they can win," he said. "A player gets the best of them, in the sense that he finds flaws in what they're offering, and they should go, 'Oops, we screwed up.' They should pay it like honorable people and then move on and address their issues." Crockfords, of course, had a very different opinion of the matter and was quick to withhold Ivey's massive win after deciding he and his partner, Cheng Yin Sun, used edge-sorting to gain an advantage with the prohibited technique. In his recent interview on "60 Minutes Sports", Ivey (pictured) made no attempt to hide the fact that he used the controversial strategy to win the cash. "The casino is my opponent and it's my job to exploit weaknesses in the house and give myself the best opportunity to win," he said. Not only does Negreanu believe the dismissal of Ivey's case to be unfair, he also believes the incident could have a negative effect on Crockfords' bottom line by scaring away high rollers. "It sets a bad precedent for gamblers who are going to gamble high," he said. "You could win a bunch of money and then all of a sudden – without doing anything that's considered cheating – be told you're not getting your money." While Crockfords acted quick enough to freeze Ivey's winnings, Borgata (pictured below) in Atlantic City wasn't so lucky. In 2012, Ivey and Sun used the same strategy there to add another $9.6 million to their baccarat profits. The casino paid out the cash before the 38-year-old's London exploits came to light. They are now suing Ivey, Sun, and Gemaco to try and recoup the losses. Negreanu spoke out in his friend's favor in that case in a series of Tweets in April: "It's appalling to free-roll customers. Take their money if they lose but don't pay when they win? Are you for real Borgata? That's dirty… My hat's off to any man who can get an edge on a big-time casino… I have zero empathy for the big fish." About the recent Crockfords decision, his anger was clear: "In every logical human being's mind, it's an open and shut case, but the judge ****ed him in the ass," he said. Due to his involvement with the Crockfords trial, Ivey has missed most of WSOP APAC this year, but Negreanu isn't worried for him. "He'll be fine," he assured. "But I've talked to him and he's not happy about it. He felt good about the case. I think if there is an option to appeal, he will appeal." Want the latest poker headlines and interviews? Follow PocketFives on Twitterand Like PocketFives on Facebook. You can also subscribe to our RSS feed.
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