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Full Tilt Poker Announces Weekly Cash Rewards Up to 25%[ return to main articles page ]

By: Dan Cypra    [See all articles by Dan Cypra]
Published on Oct 12th, 2012
On Friday, Full Tilt Poker officials announced changes to the site's rakeback and rewards system ahead of a scheduled November 6 re-launch. Shyam Markus, formerly FTPDoug, posted the news on Two Plus Two, noting that Iron Man, Black Card, and affiliate-paid rakeback are all history. Instead, a simplified system will be introduced that tops out at paying $2.50 for every 100 Full Tilt Points earned, which works out to 25%. All monies will be paid weekly and the new rewards system will be open to all Full Tilt members.

The new system won't have deductions for store purchases and promotions, for example, so as Markus pointed out, "The 25% will almost always beat the 27% that rakeback was giving." As part of the changes, Full Tilt will switch over to the Weighted Contributed method of calculating rake and away from the Dealt method.

As Markus revealed to the poker community, the weekly cash payments to players do not use up Full Tilt Points. Therefore, "You can still spend them in the store. This means that, depending on how you spend them, points add an additional 4% to 5% to the program, giving the top level of the new program a giveback of up to 30%… Since there are no fee deductions, all FTPs are worth more to former rakeback players than previously, which increases the value of promotions like Happy Hour and Take 2."

According to Markus, the highest echelon of Full Tilt's new rewards program is "significantly easier to achieve" than the Black Card was. Speaking of the Black Card program, it will make its return to the new Full Tilt, but take on a different form. What that means remains to be seen, but details will likely be released in the near future.

On why Full Tilt would move away from Iron Man, Black Card, and affiliate-paid rakeback and toward a singular system, Markus posted, "The three programs had their advantages, but overall it was too many programs and they were confusing too many players… This was not a trivial decision, but in the end we decided that the benefits of having a unified program were worth the change. So, when we re-launch on November 6th, it will be without Iron Man, Black Card, or affiliate-paid rakeback."

U.S. players will not be able to fire up real money games on the new Full Tilt and are still in the dark on the process of claiming their account balances from the Department of Justice. The DOJ was seeking Claims Administrator applicants as recently as August, but has yet to announce any time frame or process for dispersing player balances. Also unclear is whether U.S. poker players will receive their account balances in full or get a percentage on the Dollar.

This week, U.S. Full Tilt players received an e-mail from the site that read in part, "Full Tilt Poker will not offer real money online poker in the U.S. until it is permissible to do so under relevant law… Only play chip games will be available to Full Tilt Poker players in the U.S. following re-launch in the first week of November. Your Full Tilt Points balance will remain intact in your account."

While several PocketFives players in the United States were excited to receive correspondence from Full Tilt, others pointed out that no repayment plan has been announced. The e-mail concluded by saying, "Please note that we are unable to answer queries in relation to your funds – all such questions should be directed to the DOJ in accordance with the procedure to be defined by them."

Stay tuned to PocketFives for the latest Full Tilt Poker news.

Comments

  1. Funny..FTP doug survived..out of everybody?...Fk the ledereererrer files, we want the FTP Doug files...
  2. I was due a $600 Iron Man bonus to begin 2 days after the site went down. I wonder if this will be honored and if our Iron Man medals will be converted into cash as well. As an everyday player of FTP, by stopping this program, don't see myself having incentive to play there everyday even for a little while on days I don't feel like playing.
  3.  
    Originally Posted by wackyJaxon View Post

    I was due a $600 Iron Man bonus to begin 2 days after the site went down. I wonder if this will be honored and if our Iron Man medals will be converted into cash as well. As an everyday player of FTP, by stopping this program, don't see myself having incentive to play there everyday even for a little while on days I don't feel like playing.

    I loved Iron Man so I'm signing it down. Beside same situations with bonus - Iv got tiny bankroll and was in the way to gear up to take my 450$ Iron Man bonus, waiting with tickets to clear this up. But good side is that what can be read on ftp site. I can't find anything about tickets but seems they handle situation that no one can say F*** Y** FTP again.

    "What will happen to Full Tilt Poker loyalty rewards that were already earned?
    We are reviewing all previous Full Tilt Poker reward programs and will provide more details in the near future. We will have a fair resolution for players who have accumulated rewards through various programs.

    What will happen to Full Tilt Poker loyalty rewards that were already earned by US players?
    Iron Man medals were previously converted to Full Tilt Points for US players. Any redemption by US players must be through the remission process established by the US Government.

    What will happen to players who were in the middle of clearing the mid-year Iron Man bonus?
    The mid-year Iron Man bonus is based on participation for the first six months of the year. As Full Tilt Poker’s operations ceased in June, it has not been awarded. We will provide a satisfactory resolution for the players who were involved.

    What will happen to active bonuses that players haven’t cleared?
    If you purchased a bonus and hadn't finished clearing it, your Full Tilt Points will be refunded on a pro-rated basis, depending on how much was left to clear. This will be done before we re-launch.

    What about the Full Tilt Poker store?
    We will only be offering virtual goods in the Full Tilt Poker store on re-launch. This includes Ring Game Tickets, Tournament Tickets, and cash bonuses.

    Will Full Tilt Points spent on purchases that never arrived be refunded?
    Yes, these points will be refunded.

    What about the Full Tilt Poker Academy and Academy Credits?
    The Full Tilt Poker Academy will not return with the re-launch. All Academy Credits will be converted to Full Tilt Points – each Academy Credit will be exchanged for one Full Tilt Point"
  4. Yessss, this system sounds much better than stupid Iron Man. Always hated that shit...
     
  5.  
    Originally Posted by takise View Post

    ails in the near future. We will have a fair resolution for players who have accumulated rewards through various programs.

    What will happen to Full Tilt Poker loyalty rewards that were already earned by US players?
    Iron Man medals were previously converted to Full Tilt Points for US players. Any redemption by US players must be through the remission process established by the US Government.

    Anyone care to speculate on what will happen to points in the claims process?
     
  6.  
    Originally Posted by ApesAreFun View Post

    Yessss, this system sounds much better than stupid Iron Man. Always hated that shit...

    Absolutely agree that the Ironman and other crap was simply CRAP....its now nice and simple...well done!

    And what the hell is everyone whining about your previous "points" and shit....screw the points be grateful that the site is coming back and YOU are able to play on both of the top 2 poker sites.

    And by the way i hope the so called smart US government get their act together to let their own citizens play as well...but then again before they can even think about that they are still way behind the 8 ball as they still are trying to figure out how to refund thier own people...geezzz as i mentioned previously Xmas 2013 is not too far away!!!...i don't blame ya for being pissed at your Gov't!..
  7.  
    Originally Posted by ApesAreFun View Post

    Yessss, this system sounds much better than stupid Iron Man. Always hated that shit...

    I guess you weren't getting rakeback then. :( This system doesn't compare to receiving a flat rakeback and having additional upside.

    Don't get me wrong, I am happy they are coming back, but this system is going to get me a couple grand less a year in rewards than the old one.
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Oct 12th, 2012 at 11:20 PM
  8. This new system really sucks for people who were getting rakeback before- not really sure this can be viewed as anything but money grab by stars. Also in case nobody noticed the rake system got changed from dealt to contributed which is also not desireable for most people.
    Edited By: tedSTRETCH Oct 13th, 2012 at 12:56 AM
  9.  
    Originally Posted by wackyJaxon View Post

    I guess you weren't getting rakeback then. :( This system doesn't compare to receiving a flat rakeback and having additional upside.

    Don't get me wrong, I am happy they are coming back, but this system is going to get me a couple grand less a year in rewards than the old one.

    Yeah, I actually had rakeback ^^

    You'll get your iron man bonus tho. Just got an email from FTP informing me about that.
     
  10.  
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    This new system really sucks for people who were getting rakeback before- not really sure this can be viewed as anything but money grab by stars. Also in case nobody noticed the rake system got changed from dealt to contributed which is also not desireable for most people.

    Its now open to all users though and not just the people who were already on rakeback, so doubt its a money grab
  11.  
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    not really sure this can be viewed as anything but money grab by stars.

    A money grab??????? Get real. Poker Stars just popped what 371 million dollars bailing out FTP. They are making good on ALL your money and your going to whine??????

    Poker Stars keeps saying they will be fair with however they repay the points when the REALITY is they don't have to give you anything at all.

    I cant play, so yes I am bitter at you saying anything bad about Stars. Money Grab.....

    What, you would rather have GBT buy up FTP and get like .10 cents on the dollar with stupid terms?
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Oct 13th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
    Reason: flaming removed, please try to argue maturely without calling people names
  12.  
    Originally Posted by Diver1 View Post

    A money grab??????? Get real. Poker Stars just popped what 371 million dollars bailing out FTP. They are making good on ALL your money and your going to whine??????

    Poker Stars keeps saying they will be fair with however they repay the points when the REALITY is they don't have to give you anything at all.

    I cant play, so yes I am bitter at you saying anything bad about Stars. Money Grab

    What, you would rather have GBT buy up FTP and get like .10 cents on the dollar with stupid terms?

    1. If you think Stars did any of this to help players out you have something else coming - its all about profit and market share.
    2. Stars isnt going to repay anyone from the US- its all up to the DOJ, we dont even have anything saying we will in fact get paid back.
    3. By money grab i mean they are looking to increase their profits on FTP and short regs who grind there.

    Hopefully this cleared up your apparently very muddled view on this subject.
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Oct 13th, 2012 at 04:20 PM
    Reason: quoted flaming removed
  13. I'm with Diver1, albeit a little more passively.

    Anyone complaining about getting dollar for dollar on their cash balance is a little ungrateful in my opinion. We could have easily been looking at 20c in the dollar (guess) had FTP just been wound up and funds distributed.

    Regs who have moved on since BF can clearly take their full cash balance immediately (ROW players) and play at the next best option for their needs.

    I can't see any ROW players, or US players depending on DOJ actions, can be anything but estatic with the results.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    This new system really sucks for people who were getting rakeback before- not really sure this can be viewed as anything but money grab by stars. Also in case nobody noticed the rake system got changed from dealt to contributed which is also not desireable for most people.

    i guess you have the option of getting ur money and not playing lol.....
    Edited By: Akasherin Oct 13th, 2012 at 04:48 AM
  15.  
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    2. Stars isnt going to repay anyone from the US- its all up to the DOJ, we dont even have anything saying we will in fact get paid back.

    I'm with Diver1 on this one......

    Perhaps you have been in coma for the last year or two...
    thats right Stars isn't going to pay back any US players....let me assure you Stars wanted to pay everyone back but it was your so called smart Gov't that wanted to be a Hero....like i said Xmas 2013 isn't too far away..and if your lucky neither is Xmas 2014....

    so maybe you should write to your Gov't and ask them why they are clowning around instead of blaming everyone else including Poker Stars...

    yes we are lucky Poker Stars saved our ass.....ovb you have no clue how big this deal was because NOW poker will come back to the USA sooner than you think!!!!....
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Oct 13th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
    Reason: flaming removed, can argue maturely without calling people names
  16.  
    Originally Posted by Akash Mazumdar View Post

    i guess you have the option of getting ur money and not playing lol.....

    Except he is FT addicted like many of us :) ...
    Edited By: liondani Oct 13th, 2012 at 09:20 AM
  17.  
    Originally Posted by ApesAreFun View Post

    Yeah, I actually had rakeback ^^

    You'll get your iron man bonus tho. Just got an email from FTP informing me about that.

    Confirm. I'v got e-mail too from FTP.
    "If you are eligible to receive the 2011 Iron Man Mid-Year Bonus, it will be credited to your account upon re-launch"
    And about this heat discussion about pokerstars they like when u holding AA vs KK - in my opinion they do this 80% for players, and maybe 20% for the profit. Think real. When FTP was shut down I switch to PS and woulda play there, all of my friends do the same. So they already got clients that left from FTP. And do any one of you can tell that he will play FTP if it was buyed by something like GBT or anything. The answer is no.
    For me it is simple.
    PS forever. FTP under them too. I don't think I will ever play anywhere else for more then few bucks.
  18. I used to.get 36% rakeback. This new stuff is shite.
    Edited By: djdoodoo Oct 13th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
  19. OK, I'll play nice........

     
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    1. If you think Stars did any of this to help players out you have something else coming - its all about profit and market share.


    Yes, sorry, I didn't realize Stars was not being a stand up company and they are here for a profit. Huh....the nerve of some companies....wanting to make a profit....sheesh.


     
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    2. ........ we dont even have anything saying we will in fact get paid back.


    Surely you have been kept in a deep dark basement?


     
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    3. By money grab i mean they are looking to increase their profits on FTP and short regs who grind there.

    Hopefully this cleared up your apparently very muddled view on this subject.

    Yes, I was muddled SORRY.
    I didn't realize that Stars was "shorting" the regs by paying them back 100% plus giving them the points plus stating they will be fair (backed up 100% by all of their previous actions).

    Your right.....Stars suks.....how dare them be such a stand up company!
  20. copy from the email they sent me:
    "These payments will be based on the number of Full Tilt Points accumulated, at a rate of up to $2.50 for every 100 Full Tilt Points earned."
    if cashback would be 25% I would be happy!The bad news is its UP to 25%.... :rolleyes: so guess what percentage will be your real cashback if you are not a sick grinder.... :o
    Edited By: liondani Oct 13th, 2012 at 07:08 PM
 
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